130 - Why Pursuing Medicine for the Wrong Reasons Could Destroy the Physician's Life and Increase the Risk of Burnout

Did you choose medicine—or did medicine choose you? And what’s the cost of that decision?

In this deeply personal and eye-opening episode, Coach JPMD sits down with Sanjay Raja, a former medical school admit who made a bold, last-minute decision to walk away. What followed was a journey through entrepreneurship, wellness, and a life of purpose beyond cultural expectations. Together, they explore how physicians often enter the field for the wrong reasons—leading to a toxic cycle of stress, burnout, and unfulfillment. This conversation uncovers truths many doctors don’t admit, but desperately need to hear.

• Uncover the hidden emotional and cultural pressures that push people into medicine—and how to break free from them.
• Learn why the absence of work-life balance in medicine is not just a scheduling problem, but a deep systemic issue.
• Get inspired by practical ways to reconnect with your purpose and build a life outside the exam room that fuels you—not drains you.

Tap play now to hear how stepping outside the medical mold can help you rediscover your purpose and avoid the burnout trap.

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Discover how medical graduates, junior doctors, and young physicians can navigate residency training programs, surgical residency, and locum tenens to increase income, enjoy independent practice, decrease stress, achieve financial freedom, and retire early, while maintaining patient satisfaction and exploring physician side gigs to tackle medical school loans.

Transcript

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By the end of this episode, you'll feel more confident in exploring the path that honors your values, reduces stress, and supports a fulfilling life inside and outside of medicine. Welcome back to another episode where I help younger physicians decrease stress and increase income by transitioning from corporate to independent practices, even without any business experience. In this episode, you'll understand how the wrong reasons for choosing medicine can lead to long-term stress.

You'll also hear a personal story that mirrors what many physicians experience, but never say it. And in this episode, you'll walk away with simple ways to course correct and protect your energy. So welcome to another episode of the Independent Physicians Blueprint, where we help physicians decrease stress and generate wealth in this crazy world we're living in. And today we have the privilege of hanging out with Sanjay Raja, who is not a physician, but he's dealt with a lot of physicians.

in his lifetime and dealt with his fair share of stress. And as you know, on the podcast, we help physicians understand how they can live in this world and practice powerfully. so Sanjay Roger is here to talk about recipes for wellness. Because I met Sanjay a couple of months ago through a mutual friend, Bubba. He gave a talk and was talking about, I think it was about peptides. And then you were to...

to have peptides and other things, natural things that you can do to help your health. And it was a great talk, very engaging. And you also have a PBS show. we can kind of get into that as well. But tell me about how you see physicians in this world. We have physicians leaving medicine. We have physicians stressed out. They're doing other things. Hey, I'm doing a podcast, right? I didn't go to medical school to do a podcast, although I'm not.

I'm so practicing. I love the practice, but what do you see happening in the profession in terms of physician burnout? Yeah. So I've got a bit of a unique perspective on this and that is I was in medical sales, started my, I guess, regular career, did medical sales. did pharmaceutical sales for a while and then I did the consulting side of surgical consulting. So I was kind of part of their team little bit where I just

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show them how to use a new surgical device and got to know them very well. And then if you backdrop even further, I actually got into medical school, but I decided the night before I was supposed to go, I'm not going to do it. So yeah, I've got, I've got a bit of a unique perspective on it. I would say the state of what I see right now in the medical field, because with our TV show, we do interact with a lot of physicians. Um, we do interact with medical community.

And obviously they are a necessary part of our society. Healthcare providers, not just doctors, anybody first line responder, healthcare providers and whatever capacity I give a lot of love to because it's a thankless job in so many ways. So thank you for what you've been doing because I know the pressures and what you guys deal with ladies and, and, know, gentlemen as well. But to really specifically answer your question, I would say we are at a time.

where everything is changing so quickly, it's hard to keep up, especially if you're a physician. So you think about this and you and I had this conversation a little bit offline after I did my speech in Tampa, which is the doctor, their job is to provide the best type of medical care they can to their patients, given the information they have, given the resources they have.

within the confines of the American medical system. The problem I'm seeing is that they're not taking care of themselves because they have no time. They're not taught work-life balance because when you go to medical school, from what I saw with my friends who've been there and doctors I've interacted with, they're taught this is your life now. This is what you do. It's going to consume you. It's going to take over every bit of it. And essentially,

There's no such thing as work-life balance. That's what I've seen. And I lived it because I was married for 12 years with the healthcare provider. She's a PA. And I remember when we got married, you know, I was jealous. I actually was jealous of her work because I was like, was so, she still is. She was so passionate about her work. She's like, man, I did this today. I did this today and all these wonderful things she did today, you know?

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And saving lives, she worked in so many different departments, ER, cardiology, everything. But then what I started to notice over time in the relationship was she couldn't deal with life in general. It was amazing to me. It consumed her. And I'm seeing this, I'm sharing that story because this is what I see as well from my friends who are physicians, my friends who are married to physicians, that it consumes you so much. There is no work life balance now.

Or there really never was. And it was just something that you just dealt with. And I think that's part of the reason why I said to myself, I'm not going to be a doctor because I'm doing it for the wrong reasons. I was doing for family reasons and cultural reasons, but I'm not built to do one thing in life. I'm built to do many different things in life and to push boundaries. That was my goal. And took me 40 years to figure out what I really wanted to do. So, so were you married long-winded dancer? Yeah. But were you married?

when you wanted to go to medical school or were you? No, no. I was, I got out of college. had a degree in biology, chemistry, physical science, a minor in psychology. So I had all these degrees and I was going to, I took the MCAT three times. I'm not good at standardized tests at all. And my third time I got it, you know, but you know what? I think I just needed to prove to myself I could do it. That's really what it came down to.

So you got in and like, how did you, you were planning on getting financial aid or were you going to pay for it? How were you going to like, what drove that decision to stop? That was a great, that's a great question because, and I'm an open book, so I'm going to just share everything, which is my parents, my dad specifically owned a computer business. so specifically internet service company at the time.

And this is when dial-up was big, right? This is, we lived in the world of AOL and dial-up. didn't have high speed. You had all these pop-up internet service companies and I was in Kansas and he owned this company. It's interesting because my parents are traditional without being traditional. So that means is that he wanted me to get just any degree, come out of college and retire. That's what he wanted. And when I basically,

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You know, came out of college. was like, all right, you're to work. was working ridiculous hours, stupid hours. I mean, I was working 80, 90 hours a week getting paid very little. you were working for him. You were going in this hard for him. How was the company doing? because, it felt more like indentured servitude. Honestly. I gotta be honest with you on that one. Um, and what happened is then I, the plan for me was to go to medical school, but they'd

They just wanted me to come out with a degree so they could say to society, hey, he's got a college degree. Now he's taken over the family business and he's going to, he's going to retire me. That was his goal. And I didn't want to live that life. had no passion for what he was doing. I learned a lot, but I had zero passion for it. So I would study for the MCAT between the hours of 3 a.m. to 5 a.m. Wow. Because I was working so much for him.

He didn't want me to take it. And I felt like at certain level, he wanted me to fail, honestly. And so what happened was the first time I took it, I remember getting my score back going, oh my God, they must think I'm a complete moron. It was bad. Then I took it a second time and did a little bit better, but still not where I need to be. My grades were always good. So that was kind of my saving grace. My grades in college were very good. And then I took it the third time and I hit the minimum that I needed to get.

And then I get a letter from the university of Arizona. Yeah. And they reached out and I got the letter and I was, and I looked at it. was like, my God, I actually did this thing. way. Right. And it was interesting because my parents knew something was up. didn't tell him I was applying to medical school. I didn't tell him. And so my, so one day they sat me down and they said, Hey,

If you go, I know we don't know what you're doing, but I was living at home, so it was weird, but they didn't want to directly say it to me, but they said it's me. said, if you go, you know, wherever you go to, if you decide to go to medical school, that's assuming you even get in. I mean, he would think I could pull it off. We won't be there for you. Meaning you go, stay gone. And at the time I was not as mentally strong as I am now. Right. And I kind of made the.

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just decision in my head saying, okay, well, you know, there's student loans, there's all those things you can do obviously. But I made the calculus and saying, did I do this just to spite them to prove to them I could do it? Or do I was that doing it for me? Who was that doing this for? And I realized through a lot of thought that I was doing it just to prove I could do it. And so imagine, imagine if you had gone through it and went through medical school and

Yeah. And so that's what would, you know, bring up a great, great points because there are a lot of physicians who do it for the wrong reasons. mean, you're, you're, I'm assuming of Indian background, right? So most, a lot of Indian families want their physicians, they want their, their, their kids to go to medical school, law school, or being an engineer. But sometimes the children don't want to do it. I mean, I have people in my family that didn't want to go to medical school, but, their parents wanted to force them. And, know, I have four kids and,

None of them wanna do medicine. And I think a lot of it because they saw me go through what I've gone through. I went through divorce as well. medicine really consumes us as physicians. And unless you have the mental fortitude and the strong desire to go. I mean, I have a similar story in terms of the MCATs. I took the MCATs twice. Because the first time I did not think I was gonna get in. I think I scored a three out of 15 on the reading comprehension. And I was...

You did better than I did. And then I said, what am I doing? I'm here in a four year college. You know, I should know how to read, right? I couldn't finish the test. That was the biggest problem is I couldn't read fast enough to finish the test. So in fourth year, fourth year undergrad, I took a reading comprehension class to learn how to speed read. And so I ended up, I think it was January, I took the took the course.

kind of learned how to speed read and figure things out. And then I got, I took the MCAT again in March of that year and I got an eight. I mean, I got to the average, but by that time, a week before I actually got into medical school. So I'm like, hmm, do I take the test or not? And because of my brain, I said, no, I'm taking this test. So I did all this work and I ended up doing a little bit better, but I think what it boils down to is really you have to know what you want.

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And if you're doing it for the wrong reasons, I think that's going to increase the risk of burnout. Well, it's funny you mentioned about the scoring because when I first got my scores the first two times I took it, said, apparently they can, they think that I can write, but I can't read worth a damn. it's okay. to hate reading. I try to read and maybe not reread as much. And I don't want to paint with a broad brush, but in my experience, I've seen three reasons why people go to medical school. Number one,

Which is the most rare, by the way. This is the most rare I've seen, which is they genuinely love it. Okay. That's the most rare I've seen. And if they do more power to you, I respect that. That's awesome. Then I've seen the reason of the title, having the title of doctor. You know, in the Indian culture, a lot of parents basically live vicariously through their children and children are seen as property because you need to show society.

the shiny new thing out there that you did a great job raising them because they are so fearful, so fearful of judgment from society. Okay. It's crazy. So is that cultural? mean, is that, I'm sorry to interrupt, but is that like how you're brought up? Because I know in Haiti, you know, it's similar, you know, we're so poor. There's so much destitute, you know, we, we pride ourselves in education. want

our parents really focus on education, education, education. let's think about the Indian stereotype. Let's think about that real quick, which is in society, it's not a bad stereotype to have, but it is a stereotype, which is we're seen as well-educated and very smart. Right? And so I broke that paradigm because I didn't do great in school early on in my life. I wasn't the kid who was getting straight A's. I was not that guy. And then in college, I was able to turn it on and just

do very well, but the problem was I did not care for, initially I started engineering, computer science. I hated every minute of it. my God, did I hate that? And then I got through pre-med and I still came out of college going, I still don't know what the hell I want to do. This is, I don't think this is my life. I was not meant to do the traditional cultural paths that most Indian people take. And that's the reason why I have early, even today.

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People look at me just don't know what to make me. Indian society does not know what to make me sometimes. They're like, so you're into wellness and fitness, and then you're an actor and you got a TV show. And it's hilarious because my parents, they're like, so does it, does does acting pay? They'll ask me this question. I said, well, it pays sometimes really well or it's feast or famine. That's just the way it is. But I do a number of other things and they just can't still to this day wrap their head around it.

And I think some of it has to do with understanding you as a person that's going through it, but also the parents, because as the parents did not have the luxury of understanding who they are and what they needed to do or what their purpose in life was, you know, they pass that on to their kids. And it's not necessarily genetic or a culture. It's just what they learn. And they may not know better because they weren't taught better. And so it's interesting. It's interesting.

Yeah, you know, going back to my kids, today's their birthday and they just turned 14 today, twins, boy and girl. And guess what? I hope they take the path that I kind of did, which is try everything. I've done probably 15 different careers. Hopped around and everybody's like, fine focus, fine focus. No, you need to figure out what you want to do in this life. Okay. That is the hardest question in the world to answer. Most people are working nine to five jobs that I've seen hate every minute of it. And guess what?

They didn't figure out what they wanted to do or they gave up because they felt like they're going to be judged by their family, society, whatever it may be. Right. So, and I think it relates to this podcast specifically because I tell my kids, I'm like, listen, if you want to work a nine to five job, if you want to work in the hard fields, like lawyer, doctor, engineer, I'll support you, but make sure you love it. Because once you get locked into that, it's hard to break free and start over again. Absolutely.

It's a commitment. I hope, honestly, I hope they don't go in the medical field. I hope they try everything and then they find their path, what they want to do. You know, they just live a life of freedom because I've, I've shown them both sides, which is the nine to five. was that guy. I hated every minute of it. And now I'm an entrepreneur kind of forging my own path. And I tell them it's the hardest thing you'll ever do, but it's the most rewarding thing you'll ever do. I think the one thing I also try to help my kids understand is that they have to

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serve a population. They have to serve someone or something, something that is needed in the society. We can't just always do it for ourselves. Yes, we have to understand what we have a passion to do, but part of that passion should be also to help the next person, the next person not decrease their, not increase their stress or cause, you know, increase in stress in others. It's just, it's a matter of understanding how you can fill a need that

is important in this world because some people don't have the guidance. They don't have the person that can give the wisdom that you're giving today. And hopefully people will listen to this episode and understand that, yeah, you have to understand what you want to do, but you also have to look to serving other people as well. I think that's for me, something that's helped me power through some of the hardships that I've had.

So, I, I've seen you on LinkedIn. I've seen you traveling the world. So what are you up to these days and what's going on? So we're in the middle of producing season two of our show, recipe for wellness. So for those who don't know the show, that show started because in 2011 I started a nutrition fitness company. I was working medical sales at the time.

And I started a nutrition fitness company and I said, you know what, I just want to kind of share some of my knowledge that I've accumulated because I had a lot of injuries from competing at a high level in combat sports. And then what happened was I, um, walked away with a lot of injuries. My diet was all messed up. It was crazy. So I said, I'm going to fix myself. And so I did in 2011, everybody's like, wow, what are you doing? What are you doing? What have you done? said, I.

didn't take any magic pill. just learned discipline and just doing the small things correctly. Drink a lot of water, get good sleep, eat clean food. There's no magic bullet here. No crazy diets, nothing like that. And so then it steadily grew. And then I quit corporate America in 2016 and basically went into acting in 2015. That started taking off and had the company got into acting. And then 2018, I wrote my book.

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My first book was called The Food Talk, A Parent's Guide to Teaching Healthy Habits to Kids of All Ages. I wrote that because my twins were born in 2011. And what I did was accumulate all this knowledge on being a parent. And I didn't want them to go through the challenges of obesity, body dysmorphia, all these issues that I had. I wanted them to have a leg up and not go through these challenges. So I wrote that book and got some...

pretty good press out of it. then Discovery Channel got a hold of my book and they called me and they said, Hey, we'd like to fly you and your kids out to California and talk about making, making a show out of it. I said, yeah, let's go. expect it. Went out there. They loved the idea. And then we were putting pen to paper to sign the agreement. Then they called me one more time and said, we're going to kill this deal. I said, why are we killing the deal? And they said, because Discovery owns travel channel and travel channel at the time was doing health and wellness and all the cooking, you know, traveling shows, right?

They decided to go all paranormal. So now you see on travel channel, it's all ghost story stuff. That's what it is. And so they decided we're going to focus that way. Sorry. Move on. So I'm a big believer of life happens for you, not to you. And it happened for a reason. So I said, okay, not a problem. But at the time I was devastated, honest with I was devastated. But then I said, okay, I need to pivot.

So I need to build my brand a little bit more. I need to get out there. So I did a lot of podcasts. I became a cohost on a number of podcasts and did the Food Talk podcast. And then got on stages, became a national speaker and just started building my brand and then came around again. And what happened is a good buddy of mine in California, his name is Michael May. He's a director, film producer, been in TV a long time. Him and I developed this great relationship through, I met him through a friend and we kept.

playing around with this idea for TV show. And he was one of the early adopters and he said, let's just keep trying to figure this thing out. said, absolutely. So then we actually got some meetings with some big streaming platforms, which I can't really say, but we did get some big meetings with them. And we realized that they wanted to change the show altogether. Their content is paid by advertisers who do not align with my mission at all. So I didn't want that.

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mission to change or be determined by somebody else. said, nope, we're not going to do this. So we walked away from that. Then 2023, PBS got a hold of my book through mutual contact. It was Kismet, as they say. 2024, we put a team together and we produced the first season. It released in 2025 earlier this year and it's releasing nationwide from East coast to West coast.

It's gotten great reviews. People really seem to gravitate towards it because we are not your typical health and wellness show. I don't get a lot of talking heads. I don't like that. We tell stories. We tell stories of interesting people trying to change the world. We're giving a voice to the voiceless and they were giving them a bigger platform because they're going to go big and people need to know about these people. And so now we're in season two and we just, we're in Bali earlier this year. We went to Baja Mexico and then we just filmed.

He sees episode three and four Orlando Tampa. And then we're heading off to Costa Rica in two weeks. And then we'll be in New York and we may add one more. I don't know yet, but we may add one more, but it's been going great. You know, it's been resonating. We've expanded our message and our job is to give people a trusted resource to say, listen, we're going to talk to some people or do some interesting work, not necessarily doctors, but are in the field of health and wellness in some shape or form.

and work with some brands that align with our mission because they have to align with our mission. Otherwise I don't work with them. And it's been going great. And we've just been doing a lot of different things from season one into season two. And I'm excited because I get to live my dream of traveling the world, trying great food and talking to interesting people. so what have you seen in your travels? So I've been to

some European countries, lived in Haiti. What have you seen the differences in food and culture that you think may be affecting US life expectancy? Yeah, we talk about this on the show all the time. And that is I've traveled my whole life. My parents were awesome in the sense that we didn't celebrate holidays. We traveled the world during holidays, Christmas, New Year's.

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And I've circled the globe many times and I did it in my personal life before I even got the show. And just with the show or without the show in my travels, what I've seen is the way of life in other countries is more relaxed. They have less in a lot of places. We were just in Bali, perfect example. It's a third world nation by all accounts, meaning they don't have a big economy. It's really generated by tourism and

The most interesting aspect of that is two things. Number one, it's the cleanest food you'll ever eat outside the country. Always the farm to table experience. talk about this all the time, the show, which is they don't understand the term process foods. They don't even know what that means. And so everything is basically farmed, sourced on your plate. I was in India in January, visiting friends and family. Then I went to the Himalayas because I've never seen it. I took my kids with me on that trip and.

I ate rice and bread all day, didn't gain a pound, felt wonderful. I wouldn't do that here. I would never do that here. So overly processed. I don't know why we feel the need to overly process everything, but the answer is pretty simple, which is we package food here to extend shelf life, not nutrition. That's what we do. There in India, you go to an open market. There in Bali, go to an open market. You get it from the farmer. That's where it's coming from.

And here we have to pay exorbitant amounts of money to experience the farm to table lifestyle, which is what the rest of the world is doing. That's kind of our, our, our God given gift, I would think, right, is to get our food in the most natural form possible. But we seem to have really walked away from that here. Unfortunately, that's number one. And number two is gratitude. You know, the term.

is such a hot button nowadays. I feel gratitude. All these social media start saying, look, I feel gratitude. You feel gratitude when you got something in your hand. That's not gratitude, by the way. Gratitude, what I learned through the Balinese people is that they wake up, they show gratitude, they eat dinner, they show gratitude. You know how they do it? They have these little offerings. You'll see outside every Balinese house, it's made of palm leaves and bamboo with a little offering to show the deity or whoever they pray to. They wake up.

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give this offering. They eat dinner, they give this offering, they go outside their door, they give this offering. So what happens is you'll see 50 of these things decomposing inside their front door because they're grateful for every simple moment in their life. So they're putting out food or is it a, is it? It's like a little offering of maybe a little bit of fruit and a little bit of dry rice or whatever they want to put like a little bit of flour, but they're showing gratitude for waking up. They're showing gratitude for playing with their kids. They're not a rich country.

These are not rich people, but they live the most fulfilling and happy and joyous life I've ever seen. They're really, really happy in that society. It's crazy. And here we use gratitude as a hot button word, which is, I'm grateful. I'm grateful. Okay. I'm really glad you're grateful. Are you grateful when, you know, things go south? Are you grateful when you don't have a reason to be grateful? Got a roof over your head? Food in your fridge?

Kids, they're grateful for everything. Powerful. That's just, you know, you're, you're speaking my language because that's something I learned through a coach that helped me with red light exercises, red light exercises with gratitude exercises. And during my team meetings, we do that all the time. And I think it's, that was a long winded way to say their stress levels are way down compared to ours. Absolutely. And that brings on the cortisol levels that helps them sleep better. That's fascinating.

So what is your next country? Where are you going next? Well, we're headed to Costa Rica in two weeks. Reason why we picked Costa Rica is because Costa Rica was featured on that Netflix documentary called the Blue Zone. And it's a blue zone area. And for those people who don't know, blue zones are areas of the world where people live the longest and they found like five key factors that they all have in common.

And so we wanted to travel there because I've never, that's one of the few places I've never been to is Costa Rica. So I've always wanted to go. number one and number two, it just, uh, fits within what we're trying to accomplish with the show, which is show places of the world. They may be deemed third world, but they are some of the healthiest, happiest people you'll ever find. Honestly. And this is a health and wellness Mecca, just like Bali is. And, um, we are also.

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going to be kicking off the first of many recipe for wellness, wellness retreats now. And Costa Rica is going to be number one. We, it was amazing. What happened is we showed pictures of us in Bali and Baja Mexico and people who were on the show, but people who are audience and on LinkedIn and wherever social media they looked at, they said, we want to be a part of this. We only part of this escape, this mental health retreat where you just don't think and you just are living life.

And so we just sat down and said, you know what, let's do something like that where we can give back and people can experience it. You don't necessarily have to be on the show because not everybody fits the show. And, we're just going to kick it off there in, Costa Rica. I'm excited because we're going to film the show day one with my team. And then I'm going to be there. my coast is going to be there. We're going to have experts come in to give people different experiences while we're there on fitness, nutrition, and just.

Turn off your phones, turn off work, just decompress so that when you go back to your regular life, you can be a better version of yourself. Awesome. Awesome. So how do we, how does one get in touch with you if they are interested in following you and maybe doing a retreat and when you have it again, cause I'd like to do it. Yeah. So the easiest way to do it is where, go to my recipe for wellness.com. That's our website. You'll see all our podcasts. You'll see trailers.

You'll see contact info you can reach out to a general email, which is the info at myrecipeforwellness.com. And then we also have, I think my executive producer who's helping me with this is she put out a link on Facebook about the retreat. So her name is Melanie Warner. And so there's on Facebook, she's there, but she's tagged to me. So you can find me through her or her through me or me through her either way, but just go to the website.

shoot an email or follow us on social media, send me a DM and then somebody will get back to you. But, yeah, our first one's coming up. Good. Kick it off, test it out, see how it goes. But the places we stayed in Bahama, Mexico and Bali already said, when you come back and said, we'll be back. Don't worry. We'll be back. We already planned Bali in April of 2026. It's already locked in. So awesome. Thank you so much for coming on the show and helping us understand how we need to live better as physicians and, you're an inspiration. So thank you for what you do.

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Yeah, no, I appreciate it. And to all our physician friends out there, all our healthcare providers, all our first responders, I'll leave you with the fact that, you know, we are truly grateful for what you guys do, sacrifices you make. And you just give up so much to pursue this profession that helps so many people. But just remember one thing that I've learned is that you cannot pour from an empty cup. So if you're not fulfilled and filled spiritually, mentally, relationship wise, whatever your situation means,

you cannot give your best and you guys need to guys, girls, whoever need to take care of yourselves because without you, this world would be a much different place. So we, we need you. So please take care of yourselves first. Thank you. Thank you so much for that. Appreciate you. So thank you for listening to the independent physicians blueprint where we help physicians decrease stress and increase income and generate wealth. So if you haven't had a chance to please leave a review,

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